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Police Jury discusses jail conditions

Published Tuesday, September 15, 2009

Vidalia — Citing unsafe conditions within the Concordia Parish jail, the Concordia Parish Police Jury discussed the future of the inmate population Monday.

While the jury discussed temporarily closing the facility and allowing Concordia Parish Sheriff Randy Maxwell to relocate the inmates, the board eventually decided against that and took no action at all.

Juror Willie Dunbar said he felt the jury needed more time to study the situation before making any decisions.

The jury also discussed seeking grants to refurbish the existing facility, since estimates place the job at approximately $800,000.

The facility, which was designed to house 48 inmates, has housed as many as 90 in the past and is in need of serious renovations, Jury President Melvin Ferrington said.

In other news, the jury adopted an ordinance that imposes a no wake zone and a speed limit of 5 MPH from the Cross Bayou Bridge to the mouth of Horseshoe Lake.

The board also readopted a 1996 ordinance, which prohibits burning with 300 feet of the Vidalia city limits.

Comments

Posted by adamstanton (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well why don't we discuss the state and the shape our cities have gotten into, as far as I am concerned prisoners can stay in a tent and bath from a pond and live like a soldier on a battle field since we don't have safe citites any more. Maybe it would cut down on petty stuff and decrease habitual criminals.

Posted by Razzmatazz (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 9:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) is doing it RIGHT!! He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them. He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their weights. Cut off all but "G" movies. He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects. Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel. When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value. When the inmates complained, he told them.....this is a good one......"This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."

Posted by cchat123 (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Once the punishment fits the crime....if you insist on acting like animals and acting uncivil then you get treated as such...with basic living accomodations.

I got other bills to pay rather than inreasing my taxes to upgrade your sorry "toot"(word replacement)living needs

Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm with you Adamstanton and that sheriff out in Arizona.....tents and pink panties!! Prison is for punishment.

No weight rooms or free weights. No Video games. No air conditioning. No basketball courts. No gangs. No TV other than religious channels or "G" rated movies. No frills!

Just prison. Mandatory work. Mandatory eductaion. Mandatory psychological group therapy. Mandatory work.

--mojo

Posted by fonkeytowngirl (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think that's a lot of money to spend on fixing a jail that houses so few people. I'm with you all on this one. I think they've made the prisons to be like a 24-hour hotel with all the amenities. I think they should remove A LOT of the conveniences and put these men to work and save the state money. Make them work for their meals, cook them themselves and make the food that they eat, meals that they have grown on their own or from cows and things that they have raised on their own. Our prison system has gotten soft and going to jail nowadays is just like taking an extended vacation without having to pay for anything but the extras that are wanted. Sure I would love to have free cable, go work out at the gym for free whenever I want, just basically do as I please the entire day as long as i'm not offending anyone. I'm sure a lot of people would like to do that but as a hard working citizen I can't!! Maybe if they make these men work harder then they will know how to be productive citizens when they are released.

Posted by joenlouisiana (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Privatization of prisons has made things much worse.They are afraid of law suits so they just give em what they want. a private corporation has no business in the punishment of criminals .

Posted by NAMVET (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How about the new facility in Adams County just to house Illegal aliens !!!!! Count them -- over 2400 beds for these low-life bunch of criminals from another country. Yet we as the taxpaying citizens have to support them. Even to the point of teaching them the English language. And, by the way, you can't make them work outside the prison,
Federal Law..... How about them apples ?????????

Posted by dottie (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A-men to all of the above. Wish all of our citizens
could live so well.

Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

joenlouisiana---George Bush showed us just exactly how privatization of government money can be abused...see the banking and mortgage industry failure...think Fannie and Freddie...think unbridled greed...think failure to regulate and exert any control over where and how our tax dollars were being spent by these private entities...it's the OPM principle in full regalia. It wasn't their money, it was ours. They were only reaping the profits that should have rightfully been paid back to the people's trust, but instead furnished extravagant officies, paid huge salaries, incredible bonuses, and paid for vacations, and vacation homes, and sailboats and lear jets.

Then when they ran out of money and the market collapsed, Bush and his boys decided they were too important to go bankrupt and gave them $700 billion more of our tax dollars to fix their mess and prop them up...guess what? Instead of regulating their growth, most of the failed banks are now larger than before the crash...and they are still being tight with our money...

Good thing he didn't get his wish to privatize Social Security...I know people who lost nearly 60% of their retirement portfolio when Wall St and the Banks were being bailed out...and now they tell say we have to make twice as much to simply get back where we were. . Sheesh!

--mojo

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kill them all, let God sort it out. Any crime that has a jail sentence over 3 years needs the death penalty. Truthfully 3 years on the tax payer is too much, beat them near death turn them loose and if they do it again put them down.

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The earth is becoming overpopulated, what better way to solve the problem than eliminating the criminals. If we killed all of them, let's say just the murderers, rapist and child molesters first, the earth would still have more than enough people to maintain her.

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If they close the parish jail, where does that leave the parish?

That 200 bed work release that was just in the paper a few weeks ago is all the parish would have to house violent criminals awaiting trial?

So that only leaves the privately owned prisons on Hwy 15!

There is way more to this story than Koob reported!!

Posted by marinefrmntz (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jails shouldn't be ran just by anyone. Jails should be more rehabilitative, They need more experts working in the jails with the criminals not just some fat wardens, who only care about filling up his prison.

Posted by marinefrmntz (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They really need to put more educational programs into the prisons.. I mean 23 hour lockdown is ridiculous.. how about 23 hours in a classroom....not just working.... teach these guys while you have the oppurtunity!

Posted by joenlouisiana (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Punishment only works if you punish criminals. These criminals only desire to live a tugs life and no amount of education will help them. Ok how about this, lets have professors come in from collages and teach them to be doctors or maybe accountants then we let some of you naysayer and your family go to them for you heath care or let them take care of your money. Your money would not last any longer than the drugs in the dr's office would.

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on September 15, 2009 at 11:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Once again it comes back to choices. Each one of us makes the choice every day to either go to work or sell drugs.

Go to school or hang on the corner and look cool!

It is all about personal responsibility! It is time to stop giving people who make the wrong choices, excuses.

Ignorance is not excuse, it is a choice. In this country everyone has access to education. Those that do not avail themselves of it, make that choice!

So when they make the choice to break the law they should be punished to the full extent and let the punishment fit the crime.

Rewarding them with things in jail, that the average working man or woman who works for a living and obeys the law, can't afford sends the wrong message to the masses.

The only education I have seen criminals in jail really study for is the law. That is only so they will know how to get around it!

Just like you can't help a drug addict or a battered woman/man get help until they are ready to do it on their own, you can not force someone to get an education and get a job as long as there is someone who will take care of them.

Posted by marinefrmntz (anonymous) on September 16, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

@Jammin, I disagree.. Yes everyone has access to education but what does that mean? At an early age if you are not taught anything then and your parents didn't instill in you the value of education then what?? Sometimes it will take a person in their adult life to realize the oppurtunities they had and squandered. Education is the key to keeping these convicts out of jail.. true rehabilitation.... not just lock them up and try to force them to work.. what is that teaching them?? what are criminals learning in prison other than how to be better criminals? SO ok what are they going to do when they get out if they have nothing to fall back on but more criminal activity?? Most of these men wont be able to get jobs because theyv'e been in prison and lack skills...We need to think what can prison do besides hold criminals..its needs to rehabilitate seriously

Posted by joenlouisiana (anonymous) on September 16, 2009 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

marinefrmntz the government has been trying to educate these folks for at least 20 years. It doesn't work period. These people need to be punished for the crime they commit not be rewarded with an education. All you end up with is an educated criminal.

Posted by belle_south (anonymous) on September 17, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

marinefrmntz: just let it go some people do not understand the power of education. True rehab is the key!!
Most people commit crimes because they dont have a job. most people dont ahve a job because they dont have a strong educational background. A high school diploma is not a strong educational background.

Posted by marinefrmntz (anonymous) on September 17, 2009 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It doesn't work because there is no true rehabilitaion!!!.. Locking people up does not rehabilitate I agree... Education does... I dont know where I could find stats to show the number of inmates who have received some type of education in prison vs those who haven't and the re-entry numbers of both.

Posted by judy9205 (anonymous) on September 18, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Personally I'm not interested in educating the low life scum of the earth almost 16 yr.old that chose to violently & brutally shoot to death both IT'S parents my neighbors, then take my son at gun point on March 14, 2007 and shoot to death my precious beloved son who never hurt a soul in his entire life & only tried to do good. I want justice! The Arizona Sheriff is doing right & you can't REHABILITATE a KILLER. Anyone of you have your precious child shot to death want to rehabilitate the sh-t for brains scum that has confessed to the most heidious vicious behavior by a freak of nature in this community?

Posted by judy9205 (anonymous) on September 18, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Another thing we need to start executing these murderers not educating, rehabilitating and putting these freaks of nature in prison resorts forever. This country can no longer afford the upkeep of these low life scum of the earth burdens on society! Do you want your family KILLED in the middle of the night by one of these idiots? If it can happen to our family it can sure happen to yours & not one day of your life will ever be without the horror & terror of what your baby endured at the hands of one you've known IT'S entire life, your very own neighbor confessing to crimes beyond your comprehension. Oh, and use some common sense LOCK UP YOUR GUNS so your children can't shoot you to death and start shooting up the neighborhood!

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