Posted by destiny (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 5:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!! Ninety thousand dollars it cost to give someone a job ????? Wait a minute, Obama's already got a job.......

Posted by SayItRight (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 5:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I pity the fool.

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 6:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Hospital is working it's way through bankruptcy and it has 90 k to hire a firm to hire an employee? What if this new CEO does not work out? Spend another 90 K to hire another? What ever happened to the days when people hired their own employees? Sorry just sounds like wasteful spending to me..

Posted by adamstanton (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nothing like government run health care facilities to really function like a lean machine lol,

Posted by Morpheus (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The prospect of getting HMP'd out of $120K/month for at least eight more months is equally ridiculous.

Posted by crazyworld (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 7:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't understand the math!! The hospital went into bankruptcy paying $600,000 a yr for someone to run it, and yet they are getting out of it by paying someone $100,000 a month plus expenses to do so. How is it ya can spend double the money plus unspecified expenses and come out ahead?!!

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's hard to believe that our BOS won't get involved with this mess. As bad as they are, the management companies and board of directors at Regional are worse!!! Ken Stubbs and Scott Phillips have absolutely run this hospital into the ground and NOBODY gives a damn. Stubbs is reading EKGs for a monthly check and he's not a cardiologist. The board has fired RADIOLOGY OF NATCHEZ TO LET HATTIESBURG DO THE READING OF X-RAYS; another bundle of money leaving the county. Paying headhunters $90,000.00 to find a manager; hey, I'll start TODAY for a mere $65,000.00 a year!!!! Where in the hell is all of this money coming from????? The politics going on behind those closed doors at Regional put the BOS closed door meetings to shame.

Posted by gemccull (Gary McCullars) on August 27, 2009 at 7:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Something to think about.

http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/basics2....

If the headhunter fee is about 30% of the salary, then the hospital board is looking for an executive in $300,000 range.

Posted by itsmemame (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Quorum - $600,000 for 15 years = $9,000,000
HMP - $100,000 for 15 months = $1,500,000
GRAND TOTAL = $10,500,000
Now they want to spend $90,000 to hire a CEO?
No wonder the hospital is bankrupt. The entire board of trustees and its advisors should be fired!!!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Post it on MONSTER JOB SEARCH, they'll get lots of hits and the board can do their own interviews. I guess it's the old saying about if you have a problem, just throw money at it until it goes away.

Posted by msu2010 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 8:40 a.m.

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Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tell Dan Bland I can find him a person to run his hospital for a whole lot less than 90K.....she's a local girl, come home to Natchez after a hugely successful, award winning career out west. She's CEO'd several multimillion dollar, national and international corporations, dealt with labor unions, handled pretentiously onerous clients and employees...(not too unlike doctors), and consistently come in under budget and on time. She spent several years as the Vice President of one of the largest and most successful corporations in the world, based in Tokyo and Los Angeles . She's a highly organized and dedicated type A personality; a real "CAN DO" winner.

On her last project the budget was estimated at $21 million, she brought it in at just under $18 million and earned a total world-wide gross revenue of more than $92 million.

No, she doesn't have any direct experience in hospital management, but maybe that's a plus. She does have over thirty years in people management and cost management....and she wants to work for the betterment of Natchez and our community. And since she already lives here, there will be no moving expenses, no extra incentives for schooling her children, and she knows what she's getting into with the local politics...ugh!

She is that rare combination of brains and beauty coupled with an uncanny, calm calculus of reason...the hotter the fire grows, the cooler and more confident she becomes.

“This person wouldn’t be part of a management group or here on an interim basis,” Brown said. “They would be hired by the hospital and working for the hospital. That makes for a closer more personal relationship.”

And Bland said that’s exactly what Natchez Regional needs now.

“We need a person in here working for the hospital and working for Natchez,” Bland said.

Couldn't have said it better myself........You can email me through the paper, Dan.

---mojo

Posted by cchat123 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Blah! Blah ! Blah! NRMC....it's all in the word

Posted by kpage1 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like mojo is on to something...wonder if Bland will email him. It may be an easy savings of $90,000 to look WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

Posted by Morpheus (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mrmojo, the person you describe sounds exactly like the type of arrogant, self-important, stuffed shirt executives who have all but destroyed our county hospital. They know nothing about the actual work that goes on in a hospital and, in fact, consider it beneath their lofty, multi-million dollar station in life.

Yes, she sounds like exactly what Regional needs to wheel and deal and over-manage the place into nonexistence. Labor unions? Pretentiously onerous employees and clients? Really?

And no experience running a hospital? Wow, she sounds too good to be true. NO THANKS.

Posted by karenstubbs (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My husband and his partners all read EKG's, it was part of their training in Internal Medicine. They also read EKG's at Community when they are on call for the weekend.

Posted by manleyman (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll do it, but only if I have to.

Posted by fester (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UNBELEIVABLE! UNBELEIVABLE! UNBELEIVABLE! That goes for every word in this article. If you believe any of this, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for you.

Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with you kpage...can you believe that one, ha!

We always hear that if we are going to grow we need to work here, buy here, stay here, but we are always looking outside to hire people.

The EDA has hired people from outside Natchez to come here and promote Natchez . That hasn't worked, neither have the outsider management companies hired to run the hospital.

It's almost like our leaders in Natchez think it prestigious to hire someone from outside our community like no one here could possibly do the job. Then when their hotshot with his glorified resume and great ideas gets to Natchez...well, none of them seem to last very long. They never quite understand the politics beneath the charm.

Natchez is and has always been a kind of separate and apart place from the rest of Mississippi...and well, it's cliquish. Outsiders never really understand the chemistry that's been in place for hundreds of years. They see the face we put on, the southern drawl dripping, friendly concierge persona, but our cliques are closed. We will share a bit of our hospitality with outsiders, but we will not let them.

Natchez is a strange phenomenon. No place I've lived is quite like it and no other place has ever been home.

--mojo

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, "karenstubbs", maybe it's time to 'FARM OUT' the reading of EKG's just as your husband did to RADIOLOGY ASSOCIATES. I don't see that the loss of income to your husband would be any different! Let's see how he likes having to curtail his lifestyle; lay off employees, loose benefits, etc.

Posted by xenon314 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mojo -

No offense, but *good* hospital administration requires a distinct set of skills, not the least of which is knowledge of all the regulatory aspects of dealing with CMS, The Joint Commission, OSHA, DEA and so on. A Master's in Business or Healthcare Administration should be the minimum education level.

No matter the skill sets of your candidate, prior hospital administration experience should be a prerequisite...general business experience simply doesn't translate.

The right person with these skills could be effective.

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

One more thing: it's ok for him and his partners to work for Community but not Radiology???? This gets way to personal and political and one day the truth will come out.

Posted by NTZglasshouses (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Natchez is and has always been a kind of separate and apart place from the rest of Mississippi...and well, it's cliquish. Outsiders never really understand the chemistry that's been in place for hundreds of years. They see the face we put on, the southern drawl dripping, friendly concierge persona, but our cliques are closed. We will share a bit of our hospitality with outsiders, but we will not let them."

Wow, Mojo - Don't know if I have seen a more accurate description of Natchez. Well said.

Posted by karenstubbs (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Would love to talk to you. My number is 6015973957 or at home 6014466526.

Posted by fester (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If the NRMC BOT and the Adams County BOS do this it will be business as usual. As long as politics and government are involved in running NRMC the future of healthcare in Adams County will be in jeopardy.

Posted by missvidla (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

all i can say is WOW i don't live in Natchez but have heard much about the politics. Thank God i don't live here.

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have no interest in discussing this with you. You cannot take responsibility for what your husband has done. Noone blames you. You just ask him why it's ok for HIM to work at both hospitals but OTHER doctors have to work EXCLUSIVELY for Regional. OH , let me correct that; THE OTHER DOCTORS CAN'T WORK FOR ANYONE WITHIN A 5 MILE RADIUS OF REGINAL......YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S BULL_____??????? Do you think it's coincidence that that includes Riverpark & Community.. It's just downright mean spirited, childish, PERSONAL, immature and bad business. Maybe it's time he's knocked off of that pedestal he has put himself on. His excuse; patient care??? Give me a break.Karma is a weird thing.

Posted by jlmorris (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"regulatory aspects of dealing with CMS, The Joint Commission, OSHA, DEA and so on"

If the above requirements are necessary for the leader of NRMC, then 50% to 60% of those qualifications should apply to the hospital board. I will go one step further to say that if BOS should have about 25% to 30% of the same qualifications in order to appoint someone to the hospital board.

Hell, I could do the job but the doctors and hospital board would not like the fact I would not be in awe of them.

Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

morph......

Maybe you are too quick to judge.....she's a Natchez girl who made good, but she's down home now where her passion is people, helping people...working in the church, for various local charities, volunteering to help the children of our community.

She is nothing like you have perceived. She has the steel to negotiate with the Teamsters, and the finesse to negoiate the hiring and firing of ostentatious clientele, and the expertise to work with the professionals, the nurses and doctors at the hospital.

But her most desirable quality is she listens.

She is a joiner...an artist at bringing people together. So she has no experience running a hospital...a hospital is a business, a commercial enterprise...the idea is to create solvency, provide a good product, and make a profit...the principles are still basically the same. She has been the Cheif Executive, and from what I hear about NRMC, that is exactly what they need.

And I agreed with you solidly that NMRC does not need another arrogant, self-important, stuffed shirt to wheel and deal and over-manage, they need a chief that is an expert in listening, negotiating, and communicating.

This woman fits the bill.

--mojo

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BRING BILL MITCHELL BACK!!!! PLEASE????

Posted by Bamaman (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know just the right person her name is Rose Sullivan she has what it takes to be a leader because she has been one for a number of years already.A perfect fit and 90 grand saved.

Posted by shoppinglady15 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, is it just me or is it every time there is anything that deals with Natchez, be it the city, hospital, county, etc., the attorney is Walter Brown? I am seeing too much of a pattern here, he has his hands in too many pots.

Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services... The Joint Commission...OSHA...DEA...

In her experience there have been compliance and regulatory organizations, indeed OSHA, where she has front line, face-to-face experience.

No CEO of any business would be expected to deal directly with them without counsel. The CEO must posess a general knowledge, but for direct compliance with such service and regulatory entities a CEO hires an expert. That distinct set of skills is the same in every business enterprise...it is people skills. Finding the right person for the right position, cutting the fat, and executing sound business acumen. This set of skills is both intuitive and empirical.

My candidate posesses both traits. She has the learned experience in a business world that spans over 30 years in a market much larger than Natchez, and the innate intuition of excellent people skills with which she was born.

--mojo

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey "mojo", she sounds perfect. Just remember who we're dealing with here. A BOS who have no interest in taking care of county business, a board of trustees who think their s___ doesn't stink and that they are smarter than anyone else... if you don't believe me, just ask one of them...lol. And, a few doctors who apparantly have great influence and just don't want anyone with sense. They damned sure don't want someone who knows how to run the hospital or stand up to them. They want a "yes" person. And someone with true business skills may figure out which dr. didn't pay rent, etc... such as Mobile diagnostics, and just why they would send county business to Hattiesburg? Someone bound to be getting their palm greased. NO OTHER REASON..

Posted by xenon314 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mojo -

With all due respect, you speak of that which you obviously do not know. You can hire all the counsel you want, but on the day that The Joint Commission arrives at 7:30 am, unannounced, it is the CEO and your senior leadership who must stand and deliver. You cannot defer to your "consultants" or "experts" - it is the CEO's name on the license and who is ultimately responsible.

If you've not been through a Joint Commission survey...you simply do not understand what is required. That doesn't make you stupid, simply inexperienced.

Isn't it the hiring of consultants and "experts" that got NRMC in this mess in the first place?

Arguably, running a modern hospital is one of the most complex jobs in America. An effective CEO has both depth and breadth of specific empiric knowledge, not general business acumen.

While I admire your dedication to and passion for your candidate, I would argue that someone whose only experience in a hospital has been as a patient is not the person for the job.

True, A Natchezian in this position would be a bonus...but that cannot and should not be the only deciding factor.

Posted by Bobaloo (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No one is going to get hired over diatribe from this forum.
Fill out and app and get in line.......

Posted by brod (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's pretty obvious that having background in hospital management hasn't worked. NRMC needs a business manager because everyone else has cut their throats and it was all about the money anyway. Took the money and run (after they fired everyone). THIS IS THE BIGGEST MESS!They left it up to Ring and Richardson(nobody liked them anyway)to decide who got the axe, and then they finally got their heads chopped off. They were due for it.

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It doesn't matter who they get. The hospital will always be in the red,the service will be sub standard,it will charge insured more than other places and patients will continue to go out of town for procedures.

Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for the respect....I guess I mistated myself, I didn't mean you would only seek counsel from your experts at the time of the inspection, but you do rely on their expertise for timely reports from their department, and to do their job. which is to be in compliance with inspection regs at all times. The regulations are not punishment, there are solid reason for their inspections, most importantly the safety of your patients and employees.

I have no direct experience with the Joint Commision, but I do with OSHA. As a CEO for an oilwell drilling company, I have faced their unannounced visits, and I did pay dearly in the beginning. But as you say it didn't mean I was stupid just inexperienced and unprepared. So, I hired a company that specialized in OSHA and other safety compliancy, and issued orders to my toolpushers, and drillers that they would take whatever steps recommended to get their rigs in shape and keep them that way. We became proactive and it never happened again, OSHA came and OSHA went.

This is general business acumen....heh, heh, through empiric knowledge. Adapt and overcome.

Back in the old days, we drilled a well, made a mess, left a mess and moved on to the next site. Hard hats were optional, as were steel toed boots and gloves. I remember a guy who worked derricks for H&P barefoot.

Then came OSHA and things got cleaned up until a drilling location these days looks like any other office digs...clean and neat, a place for everything and everything in its place. Roughnecks in matching jumpsuits with regulation hats, gloves and boots.

And just as I have had to learn, adapt, and overcome in my real world education so has my candidate. She is intuitive and proactive...and she is pertinacious.

And with all respect due you xenon314, all the depth and breadth of specific empiric knowledge will not get the job done as well as desire, dedication, and common sense supported by 30+ years of large corporation management.

Look at the bankrupt mess we have there now, and NMRC is being run by companies with enough depth and breadth of specific empiric knowledge of hospital management to command $600,000 a year and $1.2 million a year. It reminds me of the Wall St boys who drove their respective vehicles into the bankruptcy ditch while receiving 10's of millions in salaries and multi-million dollar annual bonuses.

It's time for change.......

--mojo

Posted by karenstubbs (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have no interest in discussing specifics with you either. We both know that you have an interest in the situation you speak of. I know who you are. I did not know that you were a person content to throw stones at persons in anonymity. I did want to let you know that our children read this newspaper on line and they as well as I are hurt by the rumors started here about their father. We wish we could take responsibility for all the hard work Kenneth puts in on behalf of the medical community in Natchez. We are very proud of him. God Bless...

Posted by xenon314 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mojo -

Time for a change? On that, we agree. If your candidate is up for the task, then more power to her. It will be almost like mission work to get NRMC back in order...old physical plant, loads of debt, stiff competition at NCH...not for the faint of heart!

Posted by shelockholmes (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some people have too much time to waste. Ricky S. you should be ashamed attacking people and hiding behind a fake name. Just my opinion.

Posted by justoneopinion (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Something at some point and time has been done right at NRMC. It has been there for nearly 50 years! NRMC is turning around. Good things are happening there. Excellent care is given and people are wanting to work there. Dr. Stubbs is an excellent physician and has played a hugh role in its turn around. He himself would be a great CEO. Maybe he will put his appplication in for it! He cares about the patients and the staff and what happens to the facility.

Posted by shelockholmes (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We can all talk but at least the hospital, it is turning a profit now.
The problem with local doctors and companies they feel a sense of entitlement. Times are changing and you should
offer the latest and most cost efficent methods when it comes to health care. Talk about buddy buddy doing
buisness with someone just because that is the way it always was done or just because they are local and won't update
equipment or services is crazy. Invest in the future or get out of the way.

Posted by fester (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

justonopinion, let's don't over do it. Ken Stubbs is a fine doctor and a really good person but, I would not go so far as to say he is a good business person. Doctors are traditionally very bad business people, too much emotion.
A good doctor cares too much about people to make the hard decisions a good business person has to make. Believe this, there are still a lot of hard decisions to be made at NRMC. Can't imagine why anyone would want the CEO job. Anybody that would take the CEO job at NRMC might have more ego than brains.

Posted by fester (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just saw the comment about Rose Sullivan. Rose has more brains than ego. LOL. I doubt you could run fast enough to give Rose the NRMC CEO job. What a hoot! Great entertainment if nothing else. Even OLD JADED CYNICAL ME is suprised at what I read here, sometimes.

Posted by fester (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mrmojorism, you write like a college professor. Don't you know if you want anybody to understand you, don't write above a fifth grade level. Empiric knowledge, pertinacious;
Where is my Webster's?

Posted by natashakubelikov (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NRMC is going on as always,they have some good people will forever bad managers.

Posted by ntz143 (anonymous) on August 27, 2009 at 10:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mojo- I know of whom you speak and you are absolutely correct. She would be perfect. As for Joint Commision, if you are running a program based on their standards, then an audit is nothing to fear. Your candidate has dealt with MUCH tougher circumstances...

Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on August 28, 2009 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

xenon---change is coming one way or another, and she's never been discouraged by the magnitude or difficulty of a job...in fact, the greater the challenge, the more intriguing.

Fester-- thank you... and just for you-- empiric knowledge is that which is guided by practical experience rather than precepts or theory...and pertinacious is just an adjective to describe determination or tenacity... to say she's like a bulldog or stubborn aren't too flattering to a woman...so I tried to dress it up a bit, but truth be told!!

ntz143-- I think she'd be perfect too, thank you!

--mojo

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on August 28, 2009 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"karenstubbs", first, I'm not hiding; everyone on here knows who I am. Secondly, whether I have a personal interest or not, (which I do), this is a stupid move. I really hope it's not you or your children who need an x-ray read during a tornado or hurricane, etc., when the power goes out. Do you think H'burg is going to run down here and read? Your husband has not put in ONE FOURTH of the hard work for the medical community that RADIOLOGY has;;; try 50 years!!!! They never cost the hospital one cent; so explain to me why this is being farmed out. PURELY POLITICS. It's just under the table dirty pool and you have to know that. But, it's over now and everyone on OUR side is completely happy with the outcome. WE REFUSE TO LET YOUR HUSBAND STEAL OUR JOY!!!
p.s. feel free to call me anytime.

Posted by shelockholmes (anonymous) on August 28, 2009 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Loves natchez you are so stupid if the electricity is how are you going to take an xray. The reason as I understand it is
that women were waiting up to two weeks to find out if a lump was cancer. Heard it more than once, but I also heard if you went to riverpark where they were part owners you would get faster results they tried to hurt Ntz Regional to there benifit they also own stock in community.

Posted by shelockholmes (anonymous) on August 28, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lovesnatchez you need to go get some viginia slims and go to the boat.

Posted by theoracle (anonymous) on August 28, 2009 at 10:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shelockholmes. Um, both hospitals have emergency power generators. That's how, stupid.

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on August 29, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

'SHELOCKHOLMES", YOU'RE THE IDIOT. Have you ever heard of a generator???? They can take the x-rays; BUT WHO READS THEM??? What a fool. And don't believe everything you hear. You heard, you heard, you heard; what you heard was exactly what Stubbs wanted you to hear. And try to keep you little mind on the subject. What has smoking and the boat got to do with this? Let me hear from you when you can't get an x-ray read because H'burg is too busy....LMAO.